SAWJ Minutes of Meeting 9-14-18


September 14, 2018


Carlucci’s Waterfront 876 Centerton Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054

Treasurer Rick Sapio called the meeting to order at 7:05 pm.  Mr. Sapio asked the membership present to go around the room and make introductions.

The floor was turned over to tonight’s speaker.


 The speakers tonight were Althanasios Georgiadis (Thanasi) and Perry Stavridis civil engineers with WSP USA Inc. (formerly Parsons Brinckerhoff).  The topic tonight was the survey and design of ADA compliant handicap ramps.

The gentlemen began with introducing the membership to the design requirements for ramps under the American with Disabilities Act.  There are many requirements for design on ramps that are used for pedestrian walkways at street intersections. Most ramps today are not ADA compliant, which is why many state and local governments are replacing these intersection ramp.

Discussions were held regarding different aspects of the ramps, including the Detectable Warning System, which is placed at the intersections per the ADA requirements to act as a “stop sign” for the impaired.

Mr. Georgiadis and Mr. Stavridis focused their discussion of design to how it relates to the surveying profession.  There were many questions asked by the membership of what engineers expect from the surveyors who provide the data on existing conditions in order to have a compliant design.  Most of the membership agreed that data points must be above and beyond what may by minimally requested in order to create a design that not only is ADA compliant but does not negatively impact storm water runoff.  Members of SAWJ asked that when engineers prepare a scope of services bid request for these jobs that they allow for the surveyor to provide all necessary work.

Questions were asked throughout the presentation.

The presentation concluded at 9:50 pm.



There were no minutes for the August meeting.


Treasurer, Richard Sapio presented the following financial report, dated September 13, 2018.

Checking           $XXXXXX

Savings             $XXXXXX

Duck                 $XXXXXX

Scholarship       $XXXXXX

TOTAL            $XXXXXXX


Director Charles Adamson informed the membership that he would have a director’s report following the next business meeting for NJSPLS.


There was no old business.


There was no new business.


 At 9:55 pm it was moved to adjourn the business meeting; seconded, and approved by voice-vote.

Craig Stratton, Recording Secretary



Design of ADA Curb Ramps!

We’ve all seen the newly constructed handicap ramps being constructed over the last few years mandated by the Americans with Disabilities Act (Law). Join us on Thursday September 13th for this informative discussion on what drives the design of these ramps and how many of the ramps being built today don’t meet existing requirements. Find out what existing key features are needed to be located to design new ramps and how these ramps impact right of way.

SAWJ welcomes back  Athanasios Georgiadis (Thanasi) from WSP USA Inc. (formerly Parsons Brinckerhoff) and Perry Stavridis to update us on this interesting topic. This was presented in Feb. of 2015 and was one of the top presentations of that year. Your sure to come away from this presentation with a new perspective. Looking forward to seeing you.

Carlucci’s Waterfront

Carlucci’s Waterfront
876 Centerton Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054
7:00- 9PM
Cost $35

SAWJ Meeting Thursday August 9—Ed Pagan Esq.

The Surveyors Association of West Jersey will have its monthly meeting 7PM this Thursday August 9, 2018 At Carlucci’s Waterfront located in Mt . Laurel NJ. SAWJ welcomes back Ed Pagan Esquire as our guest speaker for this meeting. 


Ed has presented numerous times for the chapter and always provides knowledge and insight to the practicing land surveyor.    Come out and join us for this interesting discussion .

Ed will be discussing Topics dealing with Land Surveyors , Affidavit of Merit , Lot Mergers and contract issues , etc.

Ed Pagan, Jr. is a NJ Attorney and managing Member of Pagan Affiliates, LLC in Lambertville NJ. With a combined legal background spanning 40 years , his practice addressed, among other legal disciplines, boundary, construction, contracts , architect, engineer and land surveyor and attorney professional liability , insurance coverage, land titles, floodplains, infrastructure development and municipal land use law.   


SAWJ Meeting/ Presentation Thursday July 12th – Bill Henning , Retired NGS Expert –Makes RTK and Heights with GNSS Real—

The Surveyors Association of West Jersey will have its monthly dinner meeting this Thursday July12th, 2018, 7PM At Carlucci’s Waterfront located in Mt . Laurel NJ, Cost $35. Our speaker for this meeting will be Retired National Geodetic Survey expert Bill Henning. 

Practical RTK procedures and checks for today’s practitioners.
Some of the Topics that will be covered
NGS Coordinate Conversion and Transformation Tool (NCAT).
Supercedes Geocon11, NADCON 5.0
• VERTCON 3.0
• New OPUS-P format to replace Bluebooking
• New NSRS database to update NGSIDB

New geometric and geopotential datums
(NATRF2022, NAPGD2022)
• GPS ON BM Campaign
Bill will also be talking on comparing & contrasting static (OPUS, user processed) vs. real-time (RTN,RTK) vs. ppp methods for GNSS control.


SAWJ June 14, 2018 Meeting / Presentation

The Surveyors Association of West Jersey will have its monthly meeting this Thursday June 14th, 2018 At Carlucci’s Waterfront located in Mt . Laurel NJ. Our speaker for this meeting will be Dr. Ing. Ricardo Passini from BAE Systems.


The outline of the presentation will be:

  1. Title
  2. Motivations for the study
  3. Characteristics of the study area
  4. Data acquisition
  5. Main characteristics of the sensors
  6. Image coverage. Results of Aerial triangulation without and with self-calibration
  7. Automatic selection of Additional Parameters for the self-calibration
  8. Image deformation and its impact on the accuracy of the derived products
  9. DSM statistical analysis
  10. Frequency distribution of residuals (DZ)
  11. Color coded plan representation of residuals DZ
  12. Conclusions and recommendations



SAWJ Meeting Minutes May 10, 2018


May 10, 2018


Carlucci’s Waterfront 876 Centerton Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054

President Bill Haggerty called the meeting to order at 7:01 pm.  Mr. Haggerty asked the membership present to go around the room and make introductions.

The floor was turned over to tonight’s speaker.


 The speaker tonight was Bruce Blair, P.LS. and P.P. The topic was Forensic Surveying.  Mr. Blair introduced the membership to the field of Forensic Surveying.  He discussed how surveyors can become part of Boundary Line Commissions, and how those commissions can be created.  NJSA 13:40-5 is the statute which describes the Boundary Line Commissions and its uses in the courts.

Per Mr. Blair, the commission would be created to settle boundary disputes, issue reports to be filed with the superior court and offer suggestions to resolution.  The chancery judge in a particular area will appoint the commission.

Mr. Blair’s lecture also included the preparation of forensic surveys as part of court cases.  He gave may examples of how to meet the needs of the client’s and give expert testimony.

Discussion was held and questions were asked throughout the presentation.  The presentation concluded at 8:55 pm.



There were no minutes for April, 2018.


The total money in the SAWJ account is XXXXXXXX  Detailed report was not available.  A motion to approve the treasurer’s report was made and seconded.  Passed by voice vote.


Director Charles Adamson issued his report by giving handouts to the membership.  NSPS has started a website to attract new people to the profession.

A complete list of the Director’s Report items can be obtained upon request.


David Doyle was the presenter at the March Meeting.  SAWJ thanks Mr. Doyle for his contributions.

NJSPLS has asked each chapter to purchase a table at the upcoming awards banquet on June 2, 2018.  A motion was made to approve the purchase of a table by SAWJ.  The motion was seconded and approved by unanimous vote.  SAWJ plans to open it up to members who wish to go.  They can go for free and sit at the SAWJ table.


Bill Robins of Robins Surveying has suffered a stroke and is in a rehabilitation center.  His firm is a small firm and they are asking for help to keep going while Bill recovers.  The membership of SAWJ has agreed to send a card and fruit basked.

NJSPLS Newsletter recently featured a new article by Bill Henning.  The membership was encouraged to read Mr. Henning’s article.

The Professional Development Hours fee needs to be renewed to the state board.  A motion was made to pay the fee, seconded and passed by unanimous vote.

The next speaker for the meeting on June 14 will be Ricardo Pasine with BAE.


 At 9:31 pm it was moved to adjourn the business meeting; seconded, and approved by voice-vote.

Craig Stratton, Recording Secretary

SAWJ Meeting-Bruce Blair

SAWJ is honored to have Bruce Blair, PLS, as our guest speaker at our May 10th meeting .Mr. Blair has over 50 years in all phases of surveying, including- cadastral, hydrographic and aerial. He will discuss the Boundary Line Commission a well as talk about forensic surveying and the responsibility of a forensic surveyor with regards to the courts. Mr. Blair will discuss the affidavit of merit and its purpose and also the activities after you are retained as an expert.

An experienced surveyor is often called upon by an attorney or a title company to opine on the merits, or lack thereof, of various surveying properties. If it is a legal issue and may result in an action at court, it is then properly referred to as a Forensic Survey. Lately most have taken this to mean an accident survey or other criminal activity where scanners and lidar and other high-tech procedures are involved. While this is often the case, it is not the basics. A forensic surveyor must be able to understand the title aspects of ownership and possession as any other surveyor. They are often called upon to position the accident or occurrence on or in front of properties so that proper liability may be determined. This usually involves reviewing material from other surveyors and either supporting or contesting their findings. In some cases it is the “policing of the profession”. Mr. Blair will discuss various cases and whether or not he has accepted them or rejected them. There are also times when you refer them to responsible surveyors due to conflicts of interest. Come prepared to ask questions but keep them civil 😊



Modernization of the National Spatial Reference System

The Surveyors Association Of West Jersey  is honored to welcome back  Dave Doyle (NGS retired, Editor xyHt, Presenter at GoLearn) to our chapter for a presentation on the  “Modernization of the National Spatial Reference System” .  This presentation will take place at our regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday April 12, 2018. at

Carlucci’s Waterfront
876 Centerton Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054

6:30PM Cocktails

Dinner/Meeting         Cost $35


During the next several years enhancements and additions to the network of Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS) including: the U.S. NAVSTAR Global Positioning System, Russian GLONASS, European Union GALILEO and China’s BeiDou will significantly improve the use of space-based positioning systems for surveying, mapping, charting, navigation and innumerable other applications. In order to meet the anticipated demands for an improved geospatial framework that these developments will require, the National Geodetic Survey (NGS) is implementing a plan for the modernization of the National Spatial Reference System (NSRS). Among the various topics outlined in this plan is the adoption of an entirely new geodetic reference frame with updated geometric (horizontal) and gravimetric (vertical) realizations that will replace the North American Datum of 1983 (NAD 83), the North American Vertical Datum of 1988 (NAVD 88) and the several island vertical datums. The new framework will be designed such that the geometric component (latitude, longitude, ellipsoid height) will be virtually identical to and aligned with the International Terrestrial Reference Frame (ITRF), while orthometric heights will be based exclusively on a nation-wide high accuracy (1-2 cm) gravimetric geoid model. This presentation highlights the rational for these changes; the various elements that currently define the NSRS and the activities NGS is engaged in to improve the capacity of and access to the NSRS.

Dave Doyle joined the National Geodetic Survey in 1972 and held the position of Chief Geodetic Surveyor at his retirement in January, 2013. He was responsible for the development, technical design and management of plans and programs that enhance the United States National Spatial Reference System. He has provided technical assistance in geodesy to international, federal, state and local surveying, mapping and GIS agencies.
During his time at NGS his experiences included all phases of geodetic triangulation, astronomic positioning, leveling, GPS data collection, data analysis, datum transformations, network adjustments, and data publication.
Mr. Doyle’s activities also include many articles in national and local surveying publications and he has conducted hundreds of workshops and seminars detailing the numerous aspects of geodesy and the National Spatial Reference System. Editor of xyHt.



SAWJ Meeting March 8, 2018 Craig Stratton”Filing a eLOMA”

The Surveyors Association of West Jersey will have its monthly meeting this Thursday March 8th,  2018 At Carlucci’s Waterfront located in Mt . Laurel NJ. Our speaker for this meeting will be Craig Stratton of Trenton Engineering  who will present “Filing an eLOMA to remove a structure from the Special Flood Hazard Area using the FEMA website”.







All are welcome.

Carlucci’s Waterfront
876 Centerton Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054
6:30PM Cocktails
7:00PM Dinner/Meeting

Cost $35